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    Default The Shill Board.

    As many boards have a relaxed policy towards shills ... if they are placed by paying advertisers.

    I thought it might be fun to post a few suspected shill reviews.

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    The reason for starting this thread, is of course, several suspected shill posts have been turning up in Groenland (The Green Board), and hobbysts who have commented on the suspicious posts hae been told to heel, or have been banned.

    But since a lot of hobbyists read both boards, as a public service, it may be useful to let hobbyists know where they may get burned.

    The first three posts here are about Angel Escorts girls.
    Last edited by BensonNobalia; 04-09-2010 at 06:32 AM.

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    Default TINA @ ANGELESCORTS.ca, shill?


    TINA @ ANGELESCORTS.ca


    By a new poster named "The Heat"

    Hello.

    I met Tina from Angelescorts yesterday.

    I'll make this review by steps:

    1) I sent a private message to Billy asking for some details about Tina and I had my answer one minute later. That was pretty fast. So I decided to book her for 1h.

    2) The appointment was at 8:45pm and she was knocking at the door at 8:47pm... I really appreciate punctuality.

    3) Tina looks better when you see her face to face. Honestly her pictures on the website don't do her justice. She has a great body, fit, strong, nice boobs, an ass well shaped and she's tanned. Bond hair and brown eyes. She has two small tattoos one on each breast. No piercing. She dresses casual, nothing exotic but once you see her naked... just wow. My type of girl.

    4) We started with the formalities, name, profession, where are you from etc... then we smoke a cigarette (yes, she smokes but she asked for it before and I never smelled the cigarette when she came in). Then we proceed with the action. Good DFK, good BBBJ really stimulating but no eye contact and then I asked for doggy when I couldn't hold it anymore. That ass in doggy is heaven.

    5) She told me that she takes 10 minutes before the end of the encounter to take a shower. I said no problem so how long do I have. She told me 5 minutes ... she asked me : do you want to try something in this time.. so I said : why not, let's see what happens... we started DFK while she was doing HJ and once mini heat was hard again I asked for a BBBJ finish so she accepted and it was a CIM finish no swallow... in 4 minutes

    Notes:

    Billy was really kind all the time since we started exchanging messages. After my encounter he called me to ask if I was satisfied. He took the time to talk to me about her pictures and he agreed with me that it's necessary to re-take them. He asked me about some details so he can now answer some of the questions that clients ask when they call.

    Maybe you have the impression that our encounter was a little rushy at the end. And yes it was, but it was kind of my fault. I got to deep into the conversation and she's more reactive than proactive, so you have to take initiative. She asks what you want and what you like. She told me she's more into penetration than DATY but she likes it anyway.

    She's more french than english. I speak both so it wasn't a problem for me. But I'm sure she can handle a conversation in english. She doesn't work that often because she has another job... she didn't told me and I didn't ask.

    Well I hope this review will help you to have an idea about what to expect from Tina since there is none about her...

    Resume:

    DFK
    BBBJ
    DATY
    Doggy
    CIM (no swallow)
    HJ

    $150 ($140 + $10 outside downtown area)
    $37 (Ideal Lajaunesse)
    $13 (beer)

    Total: $ 200

    Cheers
    The Heat

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    Default Becky @ Angelescorts, shill?

    Here's another one. also by The Heat


    Becky @ Angelescorts

    I had the pleasure to meet Becky this week.

    I couldn't find older posts about her so I decided to start a new one.

    Booking was easy as usual with Billy. We exchange pm in order to book in advance. I told him my B-day was coming and that I'd like to gift myself with this beautiful girl. I also requested a special outfit and he managed it very well. Thanks Billy...!!

    Becky came in time, wearing sexy black boots and a black tight mini skirt that allowed me to appreciate her beautiful shape. Imagine a hot platinum blond wearing black high boots and black lingerie...

    Becky is very sweet with a cute smile... on the website you can't see her smiling because she's using dental braces and she is a little shy... by the way the braces will be gone in 2 weeks. Smooth skin, spinner body, great ass and hypnotizing eyes.

    As soon as she came out of the bathroom we sat on the couch... well, actually I sat on the couch and she sat on my legs, and we started talking and kissing. While sitting on the couch she started going down slowly to start one of the best BBBJ I ever had... slow with good use of hands and a lot of saliva. When I felt I was finishing we exchange places and now having her lying on the couch and me on my knees I started DATY which she seemed to appreciate very well .... We switched again but this time I was on my feet while she was on her knees to restart the BBBJ. I saw her from all angles thanks to the mirrors on the walls... When I told her I was about to release it she agreed and she took it all... that CIM was extasy !!! (no swallow)

    We had a break to smoke a cigarette and then again BBBJ.. then I ask for the party hat and she sat on me to start a slowly but exiting penetration... then I carried her to the table where we continued without stop... then we moved to the bed to continue in doggy which is amazing when you grab that ass and pull it back and forward... finally we switched into Mish where I finished had my SOG.

    I liked Becky's attitude, she enjoys what she does, she doesn't fake when moaning (I believe ) and she's very sweet always taking care of what you desire.

    To conclude:

    MSOG
    MPOS
    CIM
    LFK (a lot of it but no DFK)

    Repeat?
    Y E S !!!!!!!

    Cheers
    The Heat

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    Default VICKY @ ANGELESCORTS.ca, shill?

    Speaking about shills, here is another one by Billy on Montreal Angels, a favority Groenland advertiser.


    (Bear in mind that this guy, Pimp 1357 is supposedly a first time poster, and a first time reviewer).

    ******


    VICKY @ ANGELESCORTS.ca


    My First review of Vicky @ Angel Escorts

    I had the pleasure to meet the lovely Vicky. Pre booking with Billy was very easy and enjoyable. I scheduled for a daytime encounter and luckily Vicky was available

    Due to unforeseen events I had to switch the meeting place at the last minute. Called Billy and like a gentlemen who's customer service skills are for sure his trademark. he agreed to have Vicky meet me to a different location for the same time that was scheduled.

    Vicky arrived earlier than expected, which I did not mind at all. I prefer people to arrive early than late. When she came in to my place she seemed a little shy, but so was I. Some circumstances made the encounter awkward at the beginning, which I wont elaborate more by respect for this lovely angel . But when we went to the bedroom she was getting more comfortable. She has an amazing body and a small wonderful tight ass. Our clothes were falling off as we were LFKing, which led to a very nice BBBJ. 69 followed. What a view from there... wow THen happy hat came on and we went through CG, Reverse, Doggy with a wonderful view of her amazing ass. We parted in a little greek session which is extra$. got my first SOG with another wonderful BBBJ. no CIM but I did not mind. We then got in the shower and made some chit chat after she offered me a massage I could not refuse. I'm usually not a MSOG, but she had the skills to get my "Jean-Guy" back into action and another BBBJ went on for a second SOG.

    She is not a clockwatcher and is definitely a girl who knows how to please. but I really really enjoyed my time with her.

    I would repeat for sure. as the old line that says : "I've seen an angel so I can die in piece" I"m ready to go in piece now hehe

    This was my first time with a SP and the experience was sucessful, especially with the professionalism of this agency !

    Again Thanks Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BensonNobalia View Post
    Compared to that, giving a guy who pays $400 for a two hour service a $100 discount is peanuts.

    That's only a 25% discount.
    Shilling defined? Please explain the difference and the value of such a review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Shilling defined? Please explain the difference and the value of such a review.

    Reuben
    Your specific questions are answered in the other thread ....

    Since this thread is about exposing shills, I'll stick that subject here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BensonNobalia View Post
    I'll stick that subject here.
    Makes two of us.

    Quote Originally Posted by BensonNobalia View Post
    The reason for starting this thread, is of course, several suspected shill posts have been turning up in Groenland, and hobbysts who have commented on the suspicious posts hae been told to heel, or have been banned.
    So other boards are pure...or more vengeance.

    Reuben

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Makes two of us.

    So other boards are pure...or more vengeance.

    Reuben
    I am not getting where you are coming from....

    What do other boards have to do with this?

    And vengence for what?

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    Default Re: The Shill Board.

    Bens .... This reviewer you posted his reviewes is no newbie. He is an existing poster on the green board who due to his moderator status can have douplicate handles to write reviewes. As fucked up as it sounds, he has been caught and will be exposed soon.

    The identical posted reviews under his older handle are so obvious... Moron thinks we are all beneath him to figure our who he is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BensonNobalia View Post
    I am not getting where you are coming from....

    What do other boards have to do with this?

    And vengence for what?
    Quote Originally Posted by BensonNobalia View Post
    The reason for starting this thread, is of course, several suspected shill posts have been turning up in Groenland, and hobbysts who have commented on the suspicious posts hae been told to heel, or have been banned.
    Your pursuit of shills would seem a lot more genuine and honest if you pursued them with equal commitment everywhere, unless you somehow believe other boards have no shills. Focusing on the green board so much for so long almost exclusively to attack shills there while ignoring them elsewhere looks exactly like vengeance for you "being told to heel", which you stated is the point of this thread as you said. But since this gives you purpose...enjoy...I won't interfere with your fun again.

    Reuben

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    While we all admit that the reviews posted by Bens are clearly the works of a shill promoter who posts with another handle too, this board (merc) also suffers from some legitimacy issues. No, I am not going to sugarcoat this, just call it as it is. Take a look at the advertisers of this and brother montrealescorts and see the amount of fake agencies, bait and switch agencies, fake independents etc.

    Somehow, someway, while us here on this board continue to post real reviews, we add to the legitimacy of the fake ones. That is a double edge sword. Some day this has got to stop. Obviously we can't ask Tom to take a $5K - $8K cut just to be legitimate. But, still, the fakes agencies that ride the benefits of our legitimacy have to be listed and labeled for everyone to see.

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    ... a cool thing to have would be 3rd board, specifically for members of both boards to fight, comment on the shills and fakes as they please, take each other eyes out if they want... with no fear of being banned.

    Since the green and the blue have a policy (well, almost) not to comment on what was posted on other boards about them or their members, the 3rd board would be an all-out fight, again with no consequences.

    I am willing to setup such a monster board and fund it thru some rather unusual advertising scheme I have discovered that is based on 3rd party distributed advertising. Shall I go on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    I hate this specious argument. "You arrested the mass murderer of 7 in Ottawa but if you were truly against mass murder you would have concentrated on the mass murderer of 9 in Vancouver."
    Now that's a specious view and a cute mischaracterization. So it's wrong to say don't make pursuing shills a into a vendetta to satisfy your anger against those one feels personally offended you while ignoring all other shills. BS! Interesting misdirection ploy though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    To establish credibility in fraud disclosure one doesn't have to disclose very fraud in the world.
    True, but going into someone else's yard to deal with their issues while ignoring the issues at home is real hypocrisy.

    Reuben
    Last edited by Reuben; 04-02-2010 at 10:53 PM.

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    Interesting thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    On behalf of all right thinking members of MERC I invite to to comment on the substance of what BN has posted. Do you think he is right or wrong?
    LOL...now that's funnier than you have been in quite a while. I see you have been studying from the Gingrich/Limbaugh playbook of righteous self-idolatry.

    BTW...there's nothing wrong with Benson or anyone going after shills if you prove it, or have good evidence. But when one hides on one board to go after another...scurrilous! Especially when it's personal revenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Your pursuit of shills would seem a lot more genuine and honest if you pursued them with equal commitment everywhere, unless you somehow believe other boards have no shills. Reuben
    No interferance noted.

    As Oliver told me when I started, no board is perfect.

    But if occasionally calling out the Queen board (which is a very helpful board) and its shills forces them to be a little more accurate, it's worth it.

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    And sure, as for calling out this board, I'll leave it to someone else.

    None of the agencies I use advertise here, so there is really no need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Focusing on the green board so much for so long almost exclusively to attack shills there while ignoring them elsewhere looks exactly like vengeance for you "being told to heel", which you stated is the point of this thread as you said. But since this gives you purpose...enjoy...I won't interfere with your fun again.

    Reuben
    That's pretty good, but I think you misread it.

    It has nothing to do with purpose.

    It's all about the girls.

    Despite the criticism, you'd be amazed at how much better some of the main agencies are these days than they were ten, or twenty years go.

    Do not mistake criticisms for antagonism like the Groenland chiefs do.

    They do a great job.

    It's all about encouraging to do better.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2Legit View Post
    .I am willing to setup such a monster board and fund it thru some rather unusual advertising scheme I have discovered that is based on 3rd party distributed advertising. Shall I go on?
    I would not bother.

    If Blue one day follows Green and bans everyone who says anything useful (as it has come close to recently) then there are already a couple of other boards starting up, IMEB and one French one).

    That said, starting a board is so easy and cheap these, that a fully open board is inevitable one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    Speaking of misdirection my friend... nice (but woefully feeble) try...

    I use hyperbole to demonstrate the point:

    " You aren't really against rape and murder as all your efforts are concentrated on finding the rapist and murderer of your daughter... that's just pure vendetta to satisfy your anger against those one feels personally offended you while ignoring all other [rapists and murderers]."

    Why would it surprise anyone that commentary would flow from one who has been involved?

    Judge the commentary on it's own merits... don't try (unless in the employ of others) to deflect thought about what the poster has raised.

    On behalf of all right thinking members of MERC I invite to to comment on the substance of what BN has posted. Do you think he is right or wrong?
    He's not wrong at all.

    Applied to foreign policies, Korbie's same old argument is precisely the kind that generated vapid expressions such as 'anti-americans', 'enemies of the state', etc. used against those who dare call out U.S. foreign policies.

    They ask: Why U.S. policies only as if France, Germany, etc. don't produce their own share of wrongdoings?

    They reply: Because U.S. policies are by far the ones most susceptible to cause damage and that's why we're focusing on these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    There are many devices used in writing and speech which add colour and meaning. Don't take everything literally. When someone tells you it's raining "cats and dogs", you don't need a steel umbrella to go outside.
    That's good advice. I was afraid you didn't get it. You seemed to miss the...

    Quote Originally Posted by BensonNobalia View Post
    And sure, as for calling out this board, I'll leave it to someone else.
    Just as I was saying. One should be sure to care for their own house rather than only minding that of others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    Let's try one more time....

    ...do you think his conclusion is correct?
    Benson is posting suspicions. He doesn't know if he's right and yet you think he is. Could be true, could be false. So what's to agree with? Suspicion, hearsay, guessing? If Limbaugh tells you the world ends to night at 8:45 don't panic my funny friend.

    BTW...isn't asking for 25% off of rates for a review (which must be 100% positive and therefor worthless unless you expect SPs to give discounts to harm their own reputations) little more than rationalized shilling? No, not expecting an admission here.

    Reuben

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    BTW...isn't asking for 25% off of rates for a review (which must be 100% positive and therefor worthless unless you expect SPs to give discounts to harm their own reputations) little more than rationalized shilling? No, not expecting an admission here.

    Reuben
    Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    Goodness me... must there be absolute proof before a warning post can be made? I hope all the decisions in your life don't require such exactitude.

    If you had to say, based on what has been posted, which side of 50% would you be on - ie > 50% chance shill or < 50% chance shill?
    Diversion/avoidance.

    Surely Benson's suspicions would be helpful somewhere, but probably not in greenland where they DO have a section exposing definite "Duplicate posters and SHILLS, etc"...http://m*rb.ca/vbulletin//showthread...ers-shills-etc.

    Reuben

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    Default Duplicate posters and SHILLS, etc...

    There is a double-face, talking on both sides of their mouths, situation going on "over there". "Over here" too.

    There are well known English speaking members "over there" who have more than one handle, specifically for posting reviews or asking questions while posing as newbies. The moderators tolerate them because they are part of the deal to see girls for free!

    I am thinking that perhaps the time has come for me to stop paying agencies $, until I receive my fare share of the business my reviews generate. Not writing reviews for the girls I see, without compensation, is not enough. I think I'll start asking for cash payments upfront before I see any girl from board advertising agencies.

    Revolt!



    All boards have been tainted with shills, frauds, fakes, corruption. A 3rd board is needed to balance things.

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